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How A Scammer Tried To Rip This Photographer Off

I feel I need to bring this up for others out there in the Photography world! This kind of stuff just .... burns my hide.

When I get communications from folks who want photography of people, typically these are folks from our rural community who are in a bind. Meaning something fell through and they really need someone! Of course the lady who asked me if I would under bid a wedding photographer she already books was a instant no, for again we are a rural community . It is not uncommon to run into people you know in the weirdest places! Such as a random dirt road up in the mountains you stopped at for the dogs to get a bathroom break. Yes this happened to us as a truck was rolling to us on this random dirt road up in the Ochoco Mountains and BANG Guy new the driver haha! Stepping on toes as this person wanted me to do to the wedding photographer is just not what one does. The wedding photographer gave the soon to be bride a very good price and I told her this!

Someone who is not family of a friend, or a neighbor, or someone we deal with on a every day, week or monthly bases are different. I just do not photograph people as a normal thing. Sure people pay much better then the wildlife I photograph but hey...... you deal with the hand you are dealt.

The first email I got went like this;

From:    
andrew becroft <anbecroft27@gmail.com>     
Date:    Thu, Jul 21, 2016 7:25 pm
To:    mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com
Hello how you doing today? My name is Andrew Becroft Do you offer Family Reunion Photography, also let me know if do you accept credit card?

My reply;

From:    
"mrsroadrunner" <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>    (Add as Preferred Sender)    
Date:    Thu, Jul 21, 2016 8:07 pm
To:    "andrew becroft" <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Hello there Andrew,
First off, where is this family reunion going to take place?
I have no issues doing family reunions at all.
Coralie

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Note: I did a town document for my oldest boys father before. It had maps of our town. Property mumbo jumbo . With that said our town is oh 2 1/2 miles long. We have a town park and the historical town depot is a place folks book for events.

Next email;

Subject: Re: Photographer Needed
From: andrew becroft <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, July 21, 2016 10:29 pm
To: mrsroadrunner <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>

The event will be held in Metolius on the 19th of September from 2 to 7 pm... I need (5 hours photo coverage) I want it 6-16x20 prints family photo portraits because we have 6 families coming together for the reunion event.

Reply;

Hello there Andrew,
Oh wow right here in Metolius. So many people get us confused with the river so I did not mean to sound so surprised.
What does your budget look like? 16x20's are no problem at all.
Coralie

NOTE; I thought for sure I would never hear from him again due to our small, rural town that gets mixed up with the river almost daily!! No traveling due to this being right in walking distance, WAY COOL I thought!

Next email

Subject: Re: Photographer Needed
From: andrew becroft <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, July 29, 2016 3:12 pm
To: mrsroadrunner <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>

Hello how are you doing ? Am so sorry for getting back to you so late it was due to my illness....The event is going to be both indoor and outdoor. And i will need an unlimited candid shot that will be in a DVD or USB with the right to prints anytime. The 16x20 will be a group photo for individual family.... So let me have the cost.

NOTE; Lets stop right here. Being disabled having other disabled folks, or just folks with health issues get in touch so this is not a huge surprise. I was a little surprised someone brings personal health issues into a professional conversation which made me wonder how personal should I get...... ?

My reply;

From:    
"mrsroadrunner" <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>    (Add as Preferred Sender)    
Date:    Fri, Jul 29, 2016 7:52 pm
To:    "andrew becroft" <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Hello there Andrew,

No problem at all. Time is coming but not that quick. Gosh I do understand dealing with health issues and hope all is well?

You can see my sizes and prices of the photographs at my website , or copy and paste http://www.mrsroadrunnerphotography.com/autographed

USB drive of my card, (or the card itself), is no problem. I shoot in raw, with permission to do as you wish with the photographs, after all everyone will want a copy of the photographs right? Will be included, your choice of my card which is 32 gb or the USB. 5 hours =

If not familiar with raw, I can put everything into jpg/jpeg. This is the typical printing file type, and what most all computer programs take. Of course in RAW you can do so much more with the photograph however they do take up more room on the card. Your choice.

Please keep in mind, I do not work in photoshop (see my website), and being a wildlife photographer I rarely work inside. Is the inside of the building going to have plenty of light? Is it going to be the historical train depot by any chance? I can walk over and check it out if so.

What is confusing me is, you will have all the photographs I take. The size of the photographs is large enough to print out everything in 16x20 if you want, I am not doing myself any favors here and all, but the photographs are big enough for 24x36's if you wish....... saving yourself what $350.00+ depending of course where you go to develop them. The only thing they wont have is my signature.

I will be using my mark iii , and my tri-pod (candid shots really do not need a tripod). With my eos 70d, and I think my eos 50 will come in handy. The ef 100-400 lens will be there, along with several other lenses on the other bodies to make sure I get everything.

Let me know if you have any questions whats so ever, dont be afraid to ask anything!
Coralie

NOTE: I can be down right long winded however I am pretty straight forwards too....... I checked on the 24x36's with the local company I sometimes use for local stuff.

His reply;

Subject: Re: Photographer Needed
From: andrew becroft <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, July 30, 2016 1:27 pm
To: mrsroadrunner <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>

Thank you so much for your full package of services and I really appreciate you for taking your time to elaborate them to me...i am okay with the cost does that include tax?

My reply;

From:    
"mrsroadrunner" <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>    (Add as Preferred Sender)    
Date:    Sat, Jul 30, 2016 7:07 pm
To:    "andrew becroft" <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Hi there Andrew,
You know here in Oregon we do not charge tax, shoot if Oregon ever did charge tax being a native Oregonian I am not sure I would know what to do?

Ok well it looks like you have a photographer for 19th of September from 2 to 7 pm.

6 unframed 16x20's = $480.00
Photographs, Time =
                        Total =

I do most of my business on the computer , so I can email you a bill or you can pay when the day comes around. It really is all up to you.

Thank you,
Coralie

His reply;

Subject: Re: Photographer Needed
From: andrew becroft <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, July 31, 2016 6:16 am
To: mrsroadrunner <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>

Okay i want you to do me a favor due to my hearing impaired and personal disabilities because am currently in the hospital to undergo a surgery and will be more than happy if you can do it for me?

NOTE; I have health issues as well - but would NEVER ask a complete stranger, and a business arrangement to do me any favors ....... I do understand when someone is having a bad day, or a bad moment, though I never expected what was going to happen!

My Reply;

From:    
"mrsroadrunner" <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>    (Add as Preferred Sender)    
Date:    Sun, Jul 31, 2016 6:43 am
To:    "andrew becroft" <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Morning Andrew,
Oh my , your in the hospital right now!
We have over a month, plenty of time to deal with payment. Lets first get the surgery over and a little healing time? You must be under some stress, so lets take some of that and throw it out the door. You are on the books, this will not change.
I will get everything in order on this end and email it to you before the big day arrives. You just pay attention to your health and pay attention on healing from the surgery.
Does this sound like a idea to you?

Coralie

.......... (home phone if you like to talk on the phone. please give time for someone to answer. we do not use the phone all that often)

NOTE; Yes I gave out the home number. Shame on me for falling for this hospital crap....... and why folks that are not so easy to make fall for this in the hospital, or those with health issues hardened and cold to folks with health issues. I understand what it is like to have health issues ....

His reply;

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Photographer Needed
From: andrew becroft <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, July 31, 2016 7:03 am
To: mrsroadrunner <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>

Okay...I would need you to do me little favor, I have a little issue.The event planner of the venue told me that he doesn't has facility to credit card machine for now so I will need you to do me the favor by adding his fee together with your charges he has to receive $4200 via money gram or cash deposit for the event planner and i will wait till the fund clear into your account. I'm also giving you a tip of $100 if you can do this for me. So i will like you to get back to me with the grand total cost altogether...So i can make the payment today to secure my appointment.

NOTE; BAM there it is! A scam....... At this moment I am still in ........ Wanting to give this person the benefit of the doubt.

My reply;

From:    
"mrsroadrunner" <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>    (Add as Preferred Sender)    
Date:    Sun, Jul 31, 2016 7:19 am
To:    "andrew becroft" <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Hi Andrew,
Well you have him contact me and him and I will talk over this.
Coralie

If I could have pulled this scammer through the monitor I would have! I was married to a convict for a short while. That brief time in my life came flooding back to me and I probably went red with anger. Guy laughed at me when I told him how dare this person try and con me! What I think made me loose my cool was, this person is feeding off peoples emotions. Telling everyone with real health issues to F off . Our society is so hardened to real human emotions. Other people are either running little cons that do not really hurt anyone, but benefit the person running these little cons to people who are getting ripped off and it does hurt the victim.

Lately just a con was run on a nice couple down in Florida...... The con just happened to involved manipulating the company into think they were me (? Or a mistake was made by their customer service folks? I dont know BestBuy has yet to contact me), and boy that got me so mad I did not believe the company when they said they would contact this couple to tell them that money was stolen from their cc and used to buy a expensive kitchen item..... I called and spoke to the wife myself! In which the police got involved bla bla bla..... Point is I don't like being involved in such activity. My ex husband realized this!

This is what would have happened, (and if you noticed by my last reply I was not happy......)

So, I have my fee which in this instance would be paid with a cc. Credit Cards are great and all but they are not real money such as cash. We have a tendency to look at such things as cc as monopoly money. If you can wait long enough, that monopoly money will turn into hard cash...... There is a time period on cc. It takes time. If I fell for this scam I would have added $4200 that is part of the scam, into my account. Flipped those funds over to this party planner , whomever that is? When the bogus funds have been noticed by the bank...... $4200 would go back to the bank who is the rightful owners. Leaving me what what? Since I do not fall for this stuff I do not even know what kind of protection I have against such things?

If people are not falling for this scam, the scammers would not be running these scams....... and the $100 bucks the person claims they would give me for my troubles.... cash? Unlikely....... Cash is the only real currency anyone actually has. Try taking your bank statement to the grocery store to buy something with it..... now pull out the cash in your pocket and pay, go home and make dinner.

Anyhoo I looked on the open web and found this scam has been around for a while but the photography community is not talking about it as they should.... if so I would have been aware of it long before now....... even if a person falls for such a thing it should not be something you should keep quiet about. Allow others to learn from your experience, don't allow it to happen to someone else.

AND it continues;

From:    
andrew becroft <anbecroft27@gmail.com>    (Add as Preferred Sender)    
Date:    Sun, Jul 31, 2016 2:18 pm
To:    mrsroadrunner <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>
I have him contact you  and he said he already gave you a call but not through so he request for your cell phone number so  he cant text you on it.

My reply;

From:    
"mrsroadrunner" <mrsroadrunner@mrsroadrunner.com>    (Add as Preferred Sender)    
Date:    Wed, Aug 03, 2016 11:02 am
To:    "andrew becroft" <anbecroft27@gmail.com>
Hello there Andrew ,
No one gave me a call.....
Look you and I know this is a scam. Lets quit this game shall we?

This town I chose to move to is a small town, I spoke to Rhonda and she has nothing on the books for the time frame you gave. This after all is the first thing anyone with any kind of common sense would do if they were to have a family reunion with 6 families showing up.

Along with that, I asked around (again you did not do your homework on where you chose to run this scam), no one knows of your name around here. Nor has family associated with your name.


I understand bottom feeders. I also understand that if folks like you did not make money off of folks who work hard at what they do, in this instance photography, did not fall for your scam, people like you would get a real job.

At this point you have not broken any laws, again a small town and our DA is accessible to answer such questions. So again lets break this tie.

You did well on the grooming, however not perfect. One, you did not do your homework on our rural town. Two, we have ONE professional party planner in our area, and she has no clue of who you are. Her friends do not know who you are. Three, you asked a favor out of someone you obviously marked as a sucker.

Lets not even get into the feeding off the hurt, disabled people out there who you claim to be one of (since of course I am one of the disabled people who you claim to be).....shameful just shameful. I have not yet heard back from the federal USA government about this scam ran on a disabled person, which is a whole other ball game that is Federal which reaches far from the USA soil. Other words the Federal Government has the rights to reach to other governments all over the world to arrest those criminals feeding off Americans. The American Federal Disability Act might be something you want to read up upon before running another con on a disabled person.

Walk lightly , some day you will be caught.......... Of course you could care less about anyone's thoughts or feelings but your own.

 

 

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